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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08 2018 8:16 pm 
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According to this

http://www.banburyunitedfc.co.uk/news/l ... 14072.html

Quick get Danny glover on the phone!


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Great minds, on both counts...

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All of this is pending any appeal we might make, of course....

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08 2018 8:45 pm 
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Something about a piss-up and brewery springs to mind.


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Dobba wrote:
Something about a piss-up and brewery springs to mind.



Kings Lynn are furthest north by latitude followed by Coalville then us.
Does this mean that if we finish third next season we will be promoted as champions.


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Official press release

http://www.hednesfordtownfc.com/2018/06 ... allocation

Personally I hope we move to NPL!


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Pitman1983 wrote:
Official press release

http://www.hednesfordtownfc.com/2018/06 ... allocation

Personally I hope we move to NPL!

Any particular reason? Personally I'd rather have more than one opponent who are close enough to bring more than a people carrier's worth of away fans.

Thank goodness we're appealing it at the very least. The leagues were clearly decided by drawing arbitrary lines across the country for us and Stafford to have been separated to begin with. Now suddenly the third most northern side in the division are the ones being moved? Making it up as they go along.


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Step 3 is south heavy. More players to choose from to form a competitive squad in the north. We haven't set the world on fire with what we have so far. Possibly bigger away followings in the north too although we will always be on the dividing line to be shifted any season...


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Step 3 is south heavy. More players to choose from to form a competitive squad in the north. We haven't set the world on fire with what we have so far. Possibly bigger away followings in the north too although we will always be on the dividing line to be shifted any season...

We'd better hope every other club in the division has been on the beach during their month and a bit headstart on us. Especially if a few of the players we've brought in are thinking twice if we're moved north again.


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Hi Danny, it's Rob here, now about next season....


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09 2018 12:03 am 
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We have always been an easy target for a move between leagues due to our convenient geographical position, remember being in the old Southern League with trips to Dover, Folkstone, Hastings, Welling, Weymouth, Salisbury, Farnborough, Truro and of course Newport I.O.W..
My gripe is the fact that it's taken this long for Shaw Lane hobby club to throw in the towel and we are moved again at the whim of the F.A., what players have we signed on the assumption we are in the Central League, would Danny have stayed if we remained in the North .?
Will the F.A. give two sh**s of course not. !


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Why oh why can't we ever just have a normal season without anything controversial happening!!???


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09 2018 6:50 am 
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Whoever moves North, whether it be Coalville, Kings Lynn or us will be at a enormous disadvantage. I'm staggered that this has been allowed to happen. Amateurish doesn't begin to describe it. How many of the players that we have signed will be having second thoughts? Any idea how many extra miles we will clock up and will receive compensation as a result?


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well at least that's the boxing day and new years day games sorted

two chances of an appeal, emma and apple

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09 2018 8:46 am 
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Some remarkable debate on the thread which Vikki started on here

https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheNPL/?fref=nf


Even the King's Lynn fans (well, one of them, and that's enough) agree that they should go north... see replies here...



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Glyn wrote:
Some remarkable debate on the thread which Vikki started on here

https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheNPL/?fref=nf


Even the King's Lynn fans (well, one of them, and that's enough) agree that they should go north... see replies here...




Can't see it unfortunately I'm not a member


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09 2018 9:04 am 
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PitmanKeith wrote:
Glyn wrote:
Some remarkable debate on the thread which Vikki started on here

https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheNPL/?fref=nf


Even the King's Lynn fans (well, one of them, and that's enough) agree that they should go north... see replies here...




Can't see it unfortunately I'm not a member



Can only suggest you join then mate, far too much for me to try to copy and paste.... suffice to say the "debate" reveals the intelligence levels of your average football fan... though far be it from me ever to judge anyone, of course...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09 2018 12:48 pm 
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An awful, awful situation for the club to find itself in at this point in the close season. People are understandably frustrated, including myself, as I feel this puts us at a huge disadvantage ahead of the new season and sets us up for another year of change, transition and a lack of stability. I've gone to the Evo-Stik League's Chairman (and FA Representative) Mark Harris this morning to ask a few pressing questions. He has been good enough to send me the following back:

"Thanks for your email. As you rightly say the decisions are made in placing clubs within the national league system are made at the FA rather than the NPL or any individual league

The process for doing this is laid down in the NLS regulations (5.9 to be precise), hence the speed of decision. The fact that the three step 3 and 4 leagues start their round of AGMs today is another factor

I fully understand your frustration at the decision to return Hednesford to the NPL. It is tough on clubs who find themselves in this situation having planned entirely differently

The knock-on effect of Shaw Lane's demise is that a number of clubs are similarly affected to preserve club numbers

All I can say is that the NPL is pleased to welcome back such a well-run club, although I can appreciate that sentiment may not be reciprocated"

On the face of it, that looks an open and shut case. I failed to broach the subject of if or why Coalville and King's Lynn had not at least been sounded out, due to the fact he probably wouldn't be privy to those details. And the FA wonder why their reputation for being 'out of touch' with grassroots football is such. Still, at least Stafford will be happy.

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It still doesn't quantify the reason why two clubs further north were not moved.
It seems to me like stick a pin in a piece of paper and see what we come up with.
We all know the FA and their selling of the national stadium to fund grass roots football when all premiership players could be taxed at x per cent and that given to grass roots.
£360000 per week is obscene!

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With at least two clubs having folded yesterday, I'm wondering whether there should be a "folding window", ie you can only jack it in within a month after the end of season, so as not to make life difficult for everyone else who run their clubs properly...


;)

I think I'm only joking.....

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Pending outcome of appeal, of course....


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Confirmation that it's the Sticky League AGM next Saturday.... so you'd think we might have some idea by then what's happening…. you'd think..... :? :roll:


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Glyn wrote:
Confirmation that it's the Sticky League AGM next Saturday.... so you'd think we might have some idea by then what's happening…. you'd think..... :? :roll:



I think we already know what the outcome of the appeal will be.
Cloth ears with no grey matter in between don't hear anything.


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Glyn wrote:
Confirmation that it's the Sticky League AGM next Saturday.... so you'd think we might have some idea by then what's happening…. you'd think..... :? :roll:



I think we already know what the outcome of the appeal will be.
Cloth ears with no grey matter in between don't hear anything.


I believe it was the Southern League AGM last weekend. As they will be administrating the Central League I wonder if we were represented there?

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I repeat my initial comment on this topic.


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Dobba wrote:
https://twitter.com/MetPoliceFC/status/1005923968078016512

I repeat my initial comment on this topic.



The penultimate paragraph is particularly pertinent - it's nice, at least, to know that someone else cares......


There are potentially far-reaching consequences if our appeal fails - meanwhile the rich man at Shaw Lane walks away scot-free and can presumably sleep at nights

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The whole thing is absolutely disgusting.
To put it simply they really don't care
I'm sure how Rob and Larry are going to bring a squad together when presumably some of our signings prefer to be travelling east and south and other more northern based have already joined someone else.
What a mess.
To be put a slightly less serious angle on it at least we know Rob isn't the only one to use the back of a fag packet!

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I have an idea.

If they refuse our appeal we fold (a la Shaw Lane) and let them sort out the resultant mess.

You think I'm joking....

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we should have a poll on what division we prefer

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It really wouldn't bother me if we elected to accept relegation to the Midland League. Next season is going to be an enormous struggle for us so I'm all for cutting out the middle man.

I also think that something should be done about these bloody hobby clubs that spring up from nowhere and then disappear as quickly leaving carnage in their wake.


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I couldn't work out why a northern Step 4 club wasn't just put into Step 3 to replace Shaw Lane.

Having looked into this I now understand that Wimborne are moving up to Step 3 from Step 4 as the losing play off finalist with the best record last year in Step 4. I assume (!) that this clear criteria was in the regulations all along. In future it might be better to limit the choice to the region where the vacancy occurs, which would be much less disruptive.

So the FA has to move a club from Southern Central to Northern. I would actually agree that we are probably the most sensible solution. Yes, it's a pain for the management and may affect some of our signings (and non signings) but I can't see a strong argument to move Coalville or Kings Lynn. Yes, they are (slightly) further north but this is, for me, outweighed by shorter travelling times and distance for away fixtures for us, which seem to be key criteria the FA is using.

I imagine our travelling increases substantially (Mr Beerhunter posted on this re Stafford I think) but we get El Chasico back which probably makes up in terms of attendances for the lack of other midlands derbies given the pitiful away support of most of our neighbours. And our away support will be boosted by at least two for many of our games.

So who should we be angry at??

Well, I blame Thatcher and all subsequent British economic policy which has destroyed the country's industrial base and shifted economc growth to London and the south. The south is where the new money is and that's where the new breed of non league club is. Just look at the Step 3 map. The old heartlands are barely on it with only 12 clubs in what I'd call "the north".

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The easiest and simplest solution would have been to run the NPL with one less side in it. This would avoid the shambles we are now witnessing,


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Or better still start with twenty four with any luck they'll be down to twenty two

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Let’s just say we accept the fate this season, then next year a SC club goes bump in late June. We could be forced back south halfway through assembling the squad!


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Yes, it's a pain for the management and may affect some of our signings (and non signings)...


Under-statement of the close-season.

Very few people know how many hours have been put into assembling the basis of a squad to play in the Southern Central League (and releasing players who wanted to stay north)...

Watch this space if our appeal fails....

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If/when the appeal fails - and players decide they cannot accept the change for whatever reason and decide to leave - do the league offer any compensation for the time and effort wasted by management teams?

I think Bob Dylan will have the answer!

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Glyn wrote:
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Yes, it's a pain for the management and may affect some of our signings (and non signings)...


Under-statement of the close-season.

Very few people know how many hours have been put into assembling the basis of a squad to play in the Southern Central League (and releasing players who wanted to stay north)...

Watch this space if our appeal fails....


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It's too unbelievable. The whole process of the league division being seperated and the organisation responsible for this are not fit for purpose. My feelings go out to the management trying to encourage new signings and re-engage old ones when this uncertain exists. At least the M6 is a better route than A14


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It's too unbelievable. The whole process of the league division being seperated and the organisation responsible for this are not fit for purpose. My feelings go out to the management trying to encourage new signings and re-engage old ones when this uncertain exists. At least the M6 is a better route than A14



And the M6 will be 21 trips
The A14 would have been 3


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Another appeal with sound reasoning fails...

http://www.dudleynews.co.uk/sport/16270 ... y_hearing/


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Yet this Mickey Mouse club win theirs...

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... l/44287961


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Yet this Mickey Mouse club win theirs...

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... l/44287961



Is it just me who has no idea what that is all about (and lacks the patience to do more than speedread it to find out!)


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when is the appeal being heard ?

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when is the appeal being heard ?


If it fails at least someone will have had a nice day out at Wembley.


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PitmanKeith wrote:
john b wrote:
It's too unbelievable. The whole process of the league division being seperated and the organisation responsible for this are not fit for purpose. My feelings go out to the management trying to encourage new signings and re-engage old ones when this uncertain exists. At least the M6 is a better route than A14




And the M6 will be 21 trips
The A14 would have been 3


I'm working away, next to the A14 this week. Three times is plenty!


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bix_the_dog wrote:
PitmanKeith wrote:
john b wrote:
It's too unbelievable. The whole process of the league division being seperated and the organisation responsible for this are not fit for purpose. My feelings go out to the management trying to encourage new signings and re-engage old ones when this uncertain exists. At least the M6 is a better route than A14




And the M6 will be 21 trips
The A14 would have been 3


I'm working away, next to the A14 this week. Three times is plenty!


At least the roadworks on the M6 will be finished by the end of March 2019.

https://highwaysengland.co.uk/projects/ ... -motorway/

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The Beerhunter wrote:
bix_the_dog wrote:
PitmanKeith wrote:
john b wrote:
It's too unbelievable. The whole process of the league division being seperated and the organisation responsible for this are not fit for purpose. My feelings go out to the management trying to encourage new signings and re-engage old ones when this uncertain exists. At least the M6 is a better route than A14




And the M6 will be 21 trips
The A14 would have been 3


I'm working away, next to the A14 this week. Three times is plenty!


At least the roadworks on the M6 will be finished by the end of March 2019.

https://highwaysengland.co.uk/projects/ ... -motorway/


A year or two before the major roadworks currently embggering the A14 in the area I'm staying are due to complete:

https://highwaysengland.co.uk/projects/ ... huntingdon


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when is the appeal being heard ?


If it fails at least someone will have had a nice day out at Wembley.


Another nice 'jolly' for the suit brigade! Image Image

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So that's it then?


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A farce. The FA has condemned us to a very tough season. They have no clue about how difficult it can be for clubs at our level.


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two cracking derby's though ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%8 ... ier_League

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